Small Circulation

[joeblast]

Pete, every so often you chime in here and say d*mn near verbatim the same things. We're not here to take Randi's challenge or show everyone how we can wizz eight feet up a wall. The existence question just ceases to be valid when that is all you mention, never quite constructively adding one way or the other, never proving a thing one way or the other, never quite opening your mind past the lid on your own training. Some people say qi doesnt exist...well, sorry for their narrow worldview, perhaps they will encounter more open minded teachers in future lifetimes. Fact of the matter is, your opinion is not going to change another's experiences, especially when one has had rather significant otherwise inexplicable experiences in the past, but you might just help someone stay away from qigong because a person or two feels its questionable. Most of this stuff has been pretty secret up until this last generation or so - so for you to assert that "well, since its 4,000 years old, why havent they proved it yet?" is rather ignorant of history.

[pete5770]

there ought to be some evidence of it's existance, something tangible, something you can see, touch, feel.

This is a qigong forum. If you want to prove qi and qigong don't exist, please try.

I am merely respecting you by replying and trying to clarify this topic for the benefit of readers looking for answers, not more questions.

For one thing no one can prove something does not exist. It's up to the people that claim "whatever" to prove whether "whatever" works, exists, or has any uses.

Also I'm not really sure who said it but "It's the questions that are important, anyone can find the answers".

If anyone feels threatened by my questions, and there are a few, I would ask you why my disbelief makes YOU feel that way?

[joeblast]

Threatened? It is but an annoyance that derails threads from their topics. What the heck do you expect people to say? My experience doesnt require your belief, but here we are on page two of not being on topic in the least, and here you are again projecting your uncertainties upon others. I think you're on the wong fook hing forum, dude.

[pete5770]

My experience doesnt require your belief, .......

That's the right atitude to have but it begs the question of why be so upset about a disbeliever who, according to all indications, doesn't have a clue?
Everyone seems afraid(for lack of a better word) of my beliefs and disbeliefs. and, to be honest, I'm about the least threatening person I know. It's just that my mind questions everything, without exception, and I'm not afraid to ask about something or say what I think.

[caesar]

WORD!

The world is free for you to travel and experience Pete. You live in states, go travel and meet the Boston people for example. That's something I can't do from Europe very easily, I envy you. You're still asking for proof like in the other topics. You have already been given an advice to go and try it yourself, because it's about feeling in the first place. For me or many other on this forum you are no threat, it's actually more like boring to look at your same questions and your same requests for some "practical proof" all the time. You have your own legs and body, go check it out yourself, or then be at least so polite that stop interrupting interesting and helpful posts by asking the questions you've already been answered, and if those questions haven't been satisfying you, accept it and let others continue learning from each other. You could of course also...read the links people paste for you about qi gong and science, for you to have a better stand at arguing, and perhaps a better understanding to what Qi and Qi Gong can mean...you'd perhaps get away from your preconception...oh but wait...those links interest you as much as politics as you said in another post...so well done. I think you must feel great for first questioning something, then rejecting the advice given to you, then rejecting web-links and books of suggestible proof provided for you explaining the matter (because it's boring like politics)...and in the end, just flip the coin upside down and pull the "I'm a threat to you believers" card...

Well done! I'm all threatened.
Don't bother to answer, I know that you will take one or to sentences and make a post about them, perhaps even with a small twist...

Sorry admin(s), this might have been a little aggressive and offensive post, but had to free some aggression from inside me, since I'm so threatened anyway.

Please go on with small circulation. It was a new topic for me since I'm new here and did find it very interesting.

[pete5770]

Claification on my part. I didn't mean to make it sound as if I thought I threatened any particular person. My intent was that I felt that I had threatened a few peoples belief systems. Sorry, that I wasn't a bit clearer on that.
I'll try once again to keep my mouth shut, but try is about as good as I can promise.

[caesar]

Well perhaps try is more than you're been doing 'til now. Good luck on it.

[Dvivid]

Trying is planning to fail. Do or do not.

Yoda - qigong master

[caesar]

Great! Just as the Nike commercial ..."Just do it!"