Even if a true master decides to simplify, its not going to be what will tap you out. Its gonna be what can kill you the fastest.
A rear naked choke can kill as easilly as a dim mak
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Even if a true master decides to simplify, its not going to be what will tap you out. Its gonna be what can kill you the fastest.
if I fight you for real, I am not going to grapple with you..this is not a ring. I would go for eyes,throat,vital areas with strikes..you grap one arm for an armbar, I jab a finger in your eye or fish hook your mouth. You are fighting with rules!!
if I fight you for real, I am not going to grapple with you..this is not a ring. I would go for eyes,throat,vital areas with strikes..you grap one arm for an armbar, I jab a finger in your eye or fish hook your mouth. You are fighting with rules!!
John Noonan wrote:if I fight you for real, I am not going to grapple with you..this is not a ring. I would go for eyes,throat,vital areas with strikes..you grap one arm for an armbar, I jab a finger in your eye or fish hook your mouth. You are fighting with rules!!
Also, that's the "anti-grappling" argument. The magic bullet of the eye gouge, fish hook, crotch bite, whatever against the grappler. Truth is it doesn't work. A good grappler can not only counter those techniques (reaching for the eye opens you up for the armbar) but do them to you, and more effectively as well. Who do you think will win in an eye gouging competition, the guy on the bottom of the groundfight, or the guy on the top?
As to who wins an eye gouge competition on top or bottom, I would assume its whoever gets the thumb in the eye first loses.
John Noonan wrote:Well, in a fight, I'd much rather have a working knowledge of groundfighting techniques than none at all.
http://www.compfused.com/filedl1/20npse ... Expert.wmv
I like this video because it shows exactly how helpless someone without groundfighting skills can be. I'm sure that there are examples of strikers who take out grapplers, but this video made me at least study some groundfighting to prevent this from happening to me.As to who wins an eye gouge competition on top or bottom, I would assume its whoever gets the thumb in the eye first loses.
And no, the person with more control, say someone in the mount, would win.
John Noonan wrote:I'm not trying to make it MMA vs. TMA, I'm just saying that someone who trains groundfighting skills is more likely to come out on top of a fight against someone who doesn't. Unfortunately, most TMA schools do not teach any sort of groundwork because it's either 1) "Below them" 2) not flashy enough to sell to the public, or 3) not part of the traditional teaching passed down from my great great grandfather squared. Are any of those reasons good enough to leave yourself vulnerable to an entire area of combat?
About 90% of fights end up on the ground. You're right, this is not the movies. People slip, get tackled, or knocked down from a blow. Does anyone want to take the chance that 9 out of 10 times their training is all for nothing because they slipped?
You can take that chance if you want, but I'm not too thrilled about those odds.
Fouls:
Butting with the head.
Eye gouging of any kind.
Biting.
Hair pulling.
Fish hooking.
Groin attacks of any kind.
Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
Small joint manipulation.
Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
Grabbing the clavicle.
Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
Stomping a grounded opponent.
Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
I don't think I'd care to try closing to grapple against someone holding a knife or something worse,
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