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wpgtaiji wrote:Please tell me, what does it prove? Why are they doing it?
I can only see one real reason.
wpgtaiji wrote: "Martial art to live. Never live to martial art". How many of us get that wrong?
pete5770 wrote:wpgtaiji wrote: "Martial art to live. Never live to martial art". How many of us get that wrong?
And what if the opposite is true? Plenty of people out there who love to fight. Who's to say a little competition insn't a good thing. I think your "Martial art to live. Never......" is a noble
sounding thing but why learn to drive a car then simply stay a passenger all your life?
wpgtaiji wrote:pete5770 wrote:wpgtaiji wrote: "Martial art to live. Never live to martial art". How many of us get that wrong?
And what if the opposite is true? Plenty of people out there who love to fight. Who's to say a little competition insn't a good thing. I think your "Martial art to live. Never......" is a noble
sounding thing but why learn to drive a car then simply stay a passenger all your life?
Of all of that, you took the part that isn't mine! woW! LOL
mate, it means that you are NOT to make your martial art your life. There are more important things in life than taiji (or any other art).
I basically called sparring the biggest waste of time one could take part in to learn real self defence reflexes, and you question that part... it says a lot.
pete5770 wrote:Also while on the "what if..." subject. What's wrong with martial arts being your life or your lifes work?
As for sparring, it would seem that a whole lot of fighters do it, in all kinds of martial arts, and I'm betting that the ones who do it, seriously, will have a decided advantage in your "real self defence".
sub_human wrote:Why do anything, if not without purpose?
To know urself, is to be truthful with one's self. To know, one must ask..
Within topic, Sparring is the question...
wpgtaiji wrote:sub_human wrote:Why do anything, if not without purpose?
To know urself, is to be truthful with one's self. To know, one must ask..
Within topic, Sparring is the question...
With respect to sparring, what are you truthful about? It is a game of tag! I know its emotional, and people THINK they have done something wonderful by getting in and mixing it up, but at its core, it is nothing but a game of "i touch you, you touch me", aka TAG!
Being TRUTHFUL with your training is doing things that will actually teach you to respond to unprepared situations. In sparring, when they say "BEGIN", you are ready for anything. In the street, you dont get that. It just is on and you need your reflexes to deal with it.
There is also no threat of being seriously injured. In training methods (like i mentioned above), there also isnt that threat, but we play GAMES! WE play games to teach us about how to see power coming at you and to deal with it. Over time, these become reflex actions that work for us. In sparing, this COULD happen, but how? 99% of people doing sparing dont know how to train this way. They just get in and do stuff to each other. Maybe, they do incorrect techniques (incorrect from the aspect of what they will be facing in the street! Practicing defending against a lunge punch is great and all, but in the street, how many attacks are going to come that way? none) so they are not training for real self defence.
So again, what are you honest about? If you look at it, sparing is only about EGO. It gives people a false sense of security! For crying out loud, I have seen women attend a boxercise or kickboxercise class ONE TIME and think they can defend themselves!
btw, your response should be put up for the title of the vaguest response in the history of forum posts! LOL Answer by not answering! I love it!
pete5770 wrote:
What's wrong with playing tag and having an ego?
wpgtaiji wrote:sub_human wrote:Why do anything, if not without purpose?
To know urself, is to be truthful with one's self. To know, one must ask..
Within topic, Sparring is the question...
With respect to sparring, what are you truthful about? It is a game of tag! I know its emotional, and people THINK they have done something wonderful by getting in and mixing it up, but at its core, it is nothing but a game of "i touch you, you touch me", aka TAG!
Being TRUTHFUL with your training is doing things that will actually teach you to respond to unprepared situations. In sparring, when they say "BEGIN", you are ready for anything. In the street, you dont get that. It just is on and you need your reflexes to deal with it.
There is also no threat of being seriously injured. In training methods (like i mentioned above), there also isnt that threat, but we play GAMES! WE play games to teach us about how to see power coming at you and to deal with it. Over time, these become reflex actions that work for us. In sparing, this COULD happen, but how? 99% of people doing sparing dont know how to train this way. They just get in and do stuff to each other. Maybe, they do incorrect techniques (incorrect from the aspect of what they will be facing in the street! Practicing defending against a lunge punch is great and all, but in the street, how many attacks are going to come that way? none) so they are not training for real self defence.
So again, what are you honest about? If you look at it, sparing is only about EGO. It gives people a false sense of security! For crying out loud, I have seen women attend a boxercise or kickboxercise class ONE TIME and think they can defend themselves!
btw, your response should be put up for the title of the vaguest response in the history of forum posts! LOL Answer by not answering! I love it!
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